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Stranger Than Fiction… An Independant Investigation Into 9/11 September 15, 2010

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St. Nicholas' Greek Orthodox Church, destroyed in the false-flag controlled demolition of the Twin Towers perpetrated by the 'Jews' (inside and outside of the US gov't), the Neo-CONS and the Israeli Mossad on 9/11... After the 'Ground Zero' area was cleared and zoned for reconstruction, the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey promised to provide land two blocks away from the old location and a grant of $20 million dollars to rebuild the church. Those promises were retracted last year, when the Port Authority broke negotiations with the Archdiocese of the Greek Orthodox Church. The plans to move the church and its congregation, already without a place of worship in almost ten years "fell through".

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1. john kaniecki - September 16, 2010

Hi hope you are well.

Keep up the good work in pressing for the truth!! There is nothing wrong with dissension – it is the healthiest thing for a vibrant society. There are too many questions unanswered about more than 911.

I could not read the entire text but looked at the headlines. I am convinced that the towers came down as a result of demolition detonations.

Look past the Jewish issue though. When you get to the top magnitude of evil they have no allegiance but unto Satan. Jews, false Christians, or whatever they are all of darkness. There is only one Truth and that is the Lord Jesus Christ as the Word of God, the Bible teaches.

But I will say this: that any person claiming to be of Israel that cannot trace back their blood line or uses the Talmud is as foreign to Israel as any gentile.

We know the Bible teaches us that God’s people is the Church of Christ. There is much in prophecy I do not understand but it will soon be revealed.

Love,

John Kaniecki

The Prodigal Son - September 16, 2010

Thanks John,

Hope you’re doing well also.

The person who did the investigation deserves recognition… not I.

The fact that they have remained anonymous is also to their credit. If it were mine – I’m sure that I would wish to take credit for it… so the author is a better person than I.

Dissent? I feel like a barking dog that everyone ignores because they know it won’t bite.

It’s sad… but 9/11 has given my life more purpose. It’s given me something to really care about, something that matters… something that 9 out of 10 people couldn’t care less about: the truth.

Please do look at more than just the headlines though… you’ve got to read the whole thing. And you’ve got to share it with others!

The only thing in that whole essay I can think of that I disagree with is the idea that there were Arabs on the planes. The planes were hijacked electronically through the autopilot system… there were no Arabs or any other physical hijackers on any of the 9/11 planes.

You wrote:

Look past the Jewish issue though.”

There is no “Jewish issue” for me… As far as I’m concerned – there is only one race, and that is the human race. For me – it’s a Talmudic issue!

We’re talking about what Christ called the “Synagogue of Satan”; “those who say they are Judahites and are not, but do lie”… We’re talking about modern-day Pharisees. Literally.

Even if some ‘Jew’ could trace their blood back to the true Israelites of the Bible…. it wouldn’t matter because even in Christ’s time and before – they were “not all Israel who were of Israel”. The Bible is crystal-clear that the heirs to the promises made to Abraham and his Seed are not ‘the Jews’… the heirs and recipients of the promises to Abraham are now – since Christ’s coming the true Israelites; the Israel of God… the Christians; those who love Jesus Christ – Who is God.

The Nation of Israel is not a tribe or a race or a ‘state’… The Nation of Israel is comprised of those who accept and obey Jesus Christ in faith. Israelites are those who do God’s will, and God’s will is that all be saved through His only Begotten Son, the one Messiah Jesus Christ.

As for prophecy… the Bible is clear that the interpretation of prophecy is the exclusive mandate of the Church. As an individual – as separate from His One, Holy and Apostolic Church, prophecy is hidden.

2. The Prodigal Son - September 16, 2010

Hey John, (or anyone for that matter),

What’s your take on this?

Is this Christianity?

3. John Kaniecki - September 17, 2010

Hi hope you are well.

Regarding my comments there are multitudes of evils out there. From Satanic Puritans who commited genocide on the Native Americans, to so call ‘christians’ who enslaved the ‘African Americans’ to the Rulers of Saudia Arabia who are wicked despots, etc.

Unfortunately I can go on for a long long time in this list. You have to see more than the ‘jewish’ problem. Do you understand this?

As far as your final statement I appreciate your honesty. I can and will say the same as you that outside the Church of Christ that you do not have the Holy Spirit and thus you cannot understand not only prophecy but scripture properly.

This comment is made in Love as I have taken yours in Love as well.

Love,

John Kaniecki

4. The Prodigal Son - September 23, 2010

Hey again John…

I think it was more than just the puritans who killed the ‘natives’.

As for the Christians who enslaved the Africans… I think it would be enlightening for you to learn who owned the vast majority of the slave ships, and who profited the most from this ‘enterprise’.

See: WHO Brought the Slaves to America?

Also, please remember that there were also many slaves of other stripes… including whites (the Irish for example).

I have also seen convincing evidence that the rulers of Saudi Arabia are actually ‘Jewish’ by blood.

The problem is not a ‘Jewish’ problem… the problem is a Talmudic problem; a Satanic problem; an anti-Christ problem!

The protestant entity known as the ‘Churches of Christ’ did not exist in the first millennium of Christianity.

The Eastern Orthodox Church is 2,000 years old!

Here John… Check out this thread:

‘What I Still Can’t Get My Head Round’

†IC XC†
†NI KA†

5. john kaniecki - September 24, 2010

Hi hope you are well.

Romans 16:16 ….The churches of Christ salute you.”
So the name of my group is in the Bible. Where do you see Russian Orthodox?

More importantly we go back to the teachings of the Bible before man came in and distorted them and changed them.

Psalm 74:20 “….. for the dark places of the Earth are full of the habitations of cruelty.”

You have to look behind the humans and unto the spiritaul wickedness who is the real enemy.

Yes evil abounds and did abound before.

God bless,

Love,

John Kaniecki

The Prodigal Son - September 24, 2010

So the words “Churches of Christ” in Romans 16:16 prove that the modern protestant entity known as the ‘Churches of Christ’ existed at the time when Paul wrote to the Romans?

Really John?

In Romans 16:4, there is a reference to the “Churches of the Gentiles”…

If I started a(nother) new protestant denomination called ‘Church of the Gentiles’ – could I then use Romans 16:4 to prove that the ‘Church of the Gentiles’ had actually existed historically in second century Christendom?

I had asked you before if this was your group:

‘Churches of Christ’

Is it?

Here are a couple of quotes from that page:

Members of the church of Christ do not conceive of themselves as a new church started near the beginning of the 19th century. Rather, the whole movement is designed to reproduce in contemporary times the church originally established on Pentecost, A.D. 30. The strength of the appeal lies in the restoration of Christ’s original church.”
— Batsell Barrett Baxter,

So Baxter here admits that the movement had its beginning “near the beginning of the 19th century” (1800s)…

He then goes on to say that the ‘Churches of Christ’ are intended to be a ‘reproduction’ of the original Church.

Well, the ‘Homicidal Gas-Chambers’ now found at Auschwitz are also ‘reproductions’, constructed by the Soviets after the ‘liberation’ (by Communists?) of the camp.

But a closer look leads one to the conclusion that they never existed before the Soviets put them there.

Modern Churches of Christ have their historical roots in the Restoration Movement, which was a converging of Christians across denominational lines in search of a return to a hypothesized original, ‘pre-denominational’ Christianity.

Participants in this movement sought to base doctrine and practice on the Bible alone, rather than recognizing the traditional councils and denominational hierarchies that had come to define Christianity since the first century A.D.

Members of the Churches of Christ believe that Jesus founded only one church, that the current divisions between Christians are not God’s will, and that the only basis for restoring Christian unity is the Bible.

They typically prefer to be known simply as ‘Christians’, without any further religious or denominational identification. They see themselves as recreating the New Testament church established by Christ.”

Many protestants believe in ‘Sola Scriptura’… but there are now over 33,000 denominations which all interpret the Bible differently! Sola Scriptura itself is not Biblical!

St. Paul adjures the Churches:

    “Therefore, brethren, stand fast and hold the traditions which you were taught, whether by word or our epistle.”
    – II Thessalonians 2:9-15

So by ignoring the Church that has always been there and attempting to ‘restore’ a clone of what you all believe the Church was like before denominationalism… you are ignoring Paul’s words here!

Do you think St. Paul taught more (volumetric-ally) by:

a. Writing

… or

b. Speaking in person in the various Churches

??

You cannot separate the Bible from the Church because the one sprang forth from the other.

The Bible does not predate the Church – but the Church predates the Bible.

To ignore the historical Church and the fathers is to ignore the Church which Christ Himself founded, promising that He would send the Paraclete to guide her… assuring us that the gates of Hades would not prevail against her.

That Church is still there John! You don’t need to restore it!

You can do research and investigate the authentic writings of the earliest Christians to see what they believed… and what they practiced when it came to worship. You will see that they were Orthodox.

You will see that they practiced infant baptism by threefold immersion. You will see that they were liturgical. You will see that they were Eucharistic. You will see that they were conciliar.

For the first 1,000 years of Christianity, the Roman Catholic entity of today did not exist… There was only Orthodoxy. The concept of an all-powerful, universal pope was (and is) forbidden. The very existence of the Ecumenical Councils is enough to prove this.

In early Christianity (as it is in Orthodoxy to this day) the bishops were equals. The bishop of Rome had no authority over the other bishops of the East and a study of the councils verify this.

The Romans (papists) separated from the Orthodoxy in the year 1054 AD when the pope attempted (beyond his jurisdiction) to excommunicate the patriarch of Constantinople. Before that point Rome had been a member of the Pentarchy… but when Rome fell away into heresy, the others remained.

Jerusalem, Alexandria, Antioch, Constantinople…

Look at this Church in Jerusalem… How long do you think it’s been there?

Church of the Holy Sepulchre

Church of the Holy Sepulchre – Holy Light!

The ‘Restoration Movement’ came out of the multiplying errors of the Papists and the protestants… If they really wanted a restoration of worship – they should have returned to the Orthodoxy from whence all of modern ‘Christendom’ was birthed.

Now I will freely and honestly admit that the Christianization of Russia is dated as beginning in 988 AD. In 1988, Russia celebrated a full millennium (1,000 years) of Orthodoxy. But Russia’s Orthodoxy grew out of Constantinople’s Orthodoxy. The ‘Jewish’ funded Bolshevik revolution and ‘Jewish’ invented Communism decimated Russian Orthodoxy… but the gates of Hades ultimately did not prevail against her.

But Orthodoxy is more than just Russia! They have the largest number of adherents… but Orthodoxy is Orthodoxy. It’s all about the Creed, Apostolic succession and the celebration of the Eucharist.

Look at the Creed John (sidebar)… Do you agree with everything that it says?

If you do… I encourage you to investigate Orthodoxy more closely. Visit a Church. Talk to the priest. I believe you’ll find what you’ve been looking for.

Spoken in love (of course),

†IC XC†
†NI KA†

6. John Kaniecki - September 25, 2010

Hi hope you are well.

The Church of Christ existed throughout history in various forms.

Regarding your comments. We know that the Bible is the Word of God. Paul says in Galatians 1:9 to accept no other gospel even if preached by an angel.

So you present things not in the accepted gospel.
Dipping three times? The Acts 8 and the eunuch there is only one immersion. A patriarch. That is foreign to the Bible.

We can go to other doctrines. A preisthood, praying to saints?

Regardless we have been over this before. Let us let time pass, perhaps five or six years and then we can talk again. As it is now we are both convinced we are correct in our stance.

Let us move on,

Love,

John Kaniecki

The Prodigal Son - September 25, 2010

Hey John,

You wrote:

The Church of Christ existed throughout history in various forms.”

Where is the proof of that? Shouldn’t there be assorted records, Church buildings, names; dates; locations, as well as numerous writings of those who were in the ‘Churches of Christ’?…

And why would there have been “various forms”?

Shouldn’t the true Church have remained demonstrably unchanged over time? Shouldn’t the truth remain constant; stable? Wouldn’t you expect the Church to take one form and maintain it – as the one truth?

The Bible is the Word of God… But first & foremost – Jesus Christ, the Eternal Son of God was the Word of God before the foundation of the world. The Gospel referred to by Paul was the one that he himself had given the Galatians – in person!

It was during his second missionary journey, St. Paul, accompanied by Silas and Timothy (Acts 16:6), visited the “region of Galatia,” where he was detained by sickness (Galatians 4:13)…

In what way has the Orthodoxy accepted or preached another Gospel than the one delivered by St. Paul and the others?

Acts 8 does not describe the method of baptism – only that a baptism took place.

However – St. Cyril of Jerusalem (where Christianity was born) does prescribe a method:

Do you not know, that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ, were baptized into His death? etc.…for you are not under the Law, but under grace.

1. Therefore, I shall necessarily lay before you the sequel of yesterday’s Lecture, that you may learn of what those things, which were done by you in the inner chamber, were symbolic.

2. As soon, then, as you entered, you put off your tunic; and this was an image of putting off the old man with his deeds. [Col 3:9] Having stripped yourselves, you were naked; in this also imitating Christ, who was stripped naked on the Cross, and by His nakedness put off from Himself the principalities and powers, and openly triumphed over them on the tree. For since the adverse powers made their lair in your members, you may no longer wear that old garment; I do not at all mean this visible one, but the old man, which waxes corrupt in the lusts of deceit. [Eph 4:22] May the soul which has once put him off, never again put him on, but say with the Spouse of Christ in the Song of Songs, I have put off my garment, how shall I put it on? [Song of Sol 5:3] O wondrous thing! You were naked in the sight of all, and were not ashamed; for truly ye bore the likeness of the first-formed Adam, who was naked in the garden, and was not ashamed.

3. Then, when you were stripped, you were anointed with exorcised oil, from the very hairs of your head to your feet, and were made partakers of the good olive-tree, Jesus Christ.

4. After these things, you were led to the holy pool of Divine Baptism, as Christ was carried from the Cross to the Sepulchre which is before our eyes. And each of you was asked, whether he believed in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost, and you made that saving confession, and descended three times into the water, and ascended again; here also hinting by a symbol at the three days burial of Christ.… And at the self-same moment you were both dying and being born; (…)”

– St. Cyril of Jerusalem, ‘On the Mysteries of Baptism’ (c. 350 A.D.):

A patriarch is a bishop… Bishops are foreign to the Bible? St. Paul’s companion above – Timothy went on to become the bishop of Ephesus!

More on Timothy:

http://orthodoxwiki.org/Apostle_Timothy

A priesthood is clearly outlined in the Bible… both Old testament and New.

Prayer To The Saints is encouraged by the Orthodox Church. Why? Because physical death is not a defeat for a Christian. It is a glorious passage into heaven. The Christian does not cease to be a part of the Church at death. God forbid! Nor is he set aside, idle until the day of judgement.

The True Church is composed of all who are in Christ – in heaven and on earth. It is not limited in membership to those presently alive. Those in heaven with Christ are alive, in communion with God, worshipping God, doing their part in the body of Christ. They actively pray to God for all those in the Church – and perhaps, indeed, for the whole world (Ephesians 6:8; Revelation 8:3). So we pray to the saints who have departed this life, seeking their prayers, even as we ask Christian friends on earth to pray for us.

Our communion in prayer with the saints is the realization of the bond between Christians on earth and the Heavenly Church. (Heb 12:22-23)

Sacred scripture presents numerous examples that the righteous, while still living can see and hear and know much that is inaccessible to the ordinary understanding. The saints while they were still on earth we able to penetrate in spirit into the world above.

From the parable of the rich man and Lazarus (Luke 16:10-31) we know that Abraham being in heaven could hear the cry of the rich man who was suffering in hell, despite the great unbridgeable gulf that separates them.

The Church has always taught the invocation of the saints, convinced they intercede for us before God in heaven. Having a prayer relationship with a saint is another way that we can gain help in our spiritual path to salvation in the Church.

God is not God of the dead, but God of the living! (Mark 12:27)

the Apostle James tells us: Confess your trespasses to one another, and pray for one another, that you may be healed. The effective, fervent prayer of a righteous man avails much. (James 5:16) Who are more righteous than the saints in Heaven?

Is a “dead” saint so much different than a “living” saint if we are all alive in Christ? Why does the Apostle John tell us in his Revelation that:

    “When He opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of those who had been slain for the word of God and for the testimony which they held. And they cried with a loud voice, saying, “How long, O Lord, holy and true, until You judge and avenge our blood on those who dwell on the earth?” Then a white robe was given to each of them; and it was said to them that they should rest a little while longer, until both the number of their fellow servants and their brethren, who would be killed as they were, was completed.”
    – Revelation 6:9-12

And this:

    “And I saw the seven angels who stand before God, and to them were given seven trumpets. Then another angel, having a golden censer, came and stood at the altar. He was given much incense, that he should offer it with the prayers of all the saints upon the golden altar which was before the throne. And the smoke of the incense, with the prayers of the saints, ascended before God from the angel’s hand.”
    – Revelation 8:2-4

We are simply asking a righteous person to pray for us as the Apostle James tells us to do!

There is ONE CHURCH on heaven and earth, and ALL are alive in Christ, even those who now stand in His Presence. We do NOT expect the Saints to “speak” to us through a “medium”, but we have Faith that the Angels, who are messengers, can carry our prayers to the saints that they may intercede on our behalf, as righteous ones whose prayers avail much.

God also works THROUGH His Saints. Didn’t the shadows of the Apostles heal? Did not the Apostle Paul raise the dead? Did THEY actually do it? Of course not! It was the Power of the Holy Spirit, working THROUGH them, just as He worked THROUGH Moses and Aaron, and the Prophets. The Church on Earth is connected to the Church in Heaven through Christ who has conquered death (past tense)!

Anyhow, I really hope you’ll continue to converse with me (and reply sooner than 5 or 6 YEARS from now!)

†IC XC†
†NI KA†


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