Old Testament VS New Testament – A Different God? October 16, 2012Posted by The Prodigal Son in Christianity, Jews, Lies & Propaganda, Orthodox Christianity.
Tags: Anti-Christ, Anti-Christian, Arbitrariness, Censorship, Christianity, Confusion, Deception, exercise in futility, Horse237, Jesus Christ, Jesus of Nazareth, Orthodox Christianity, Pharisees, So-called 'Jews', Talmud, Talmudism, Video Rebel's Blog, wasting my time
I happened upon a blog posting by someone calling themselves ‘Video Rebel’ (Lol) and ‘Horse 237’ a couple of days ago… The title of the post was ‘They Dance To Daijal’s (Anti-Christ’s) Tune’ (HERE).
I had been on his site a few times before, and had made comments without issue. Commenting on his latest offering (and on the comments made there by others) though has turned out to be an exercise in futility. When others replied to my initial comment two of my subsequent comments were ‘disappeared’ for what seems to me to be no good reason.
Whatever. It’s his site and obviously he’s free to delete whatever he wants to delete. But it all seemed very arbitrary to me because the similar comments and replies made by others were (and have since been) allowed to stand. He says I was off topic or whatever… but the others were (and still are) discussing the same things that I was so I’m a little bewildered as to why my comments were disallowed.
It seems ‘Horse’ is confused (or overly paranoid) because he has also accused me of posting under a different name and conversing with myself (which is ridiculous and easily disproved by a look at our respective IP addresses). Needless to say I was not conversing with myself.
Anyhow, I put a bit of time and effort into my responses, and if there’s anything I hate – it’s wasting my time! So I guess I’ll just post them here. I notice I’m getting hits from the Video Rebel’s page… Maybe we can converse freely here. Folks can rest assured that I at least won’t just delete things here!
Like I told ‘Horse’: WordPress affords us UNLIMITED space and bandwith for free. A million comments would not detract in the slightest from the main postings. Why even have a comments section (and a threaded one at that!) if you’re not going to allow subsequent discussion & discourse? That’s what comments sections are for! I just don’t get it.
Anyhow, the whole reason I responded was the following sentence:
Muslims believe that Jesus is the Jewish Messiah and they also believe in the Virgin Birth.”
I really do abhor this ridiculous, made up word ‘Jewish’. There was never any such thing! Even Br. Nathanael I’ve heard referring to Jesus as ‘the Jewish Messiah’. Damnit!
Then someone else named ‘Kalki’ made the following comment:
Abrahamic/Judaic religions(Islam, Christianity and Judaism) are a curse on humanity. I hope the ‘religious’ nutcases wake up to some fresh Colombian coffee some day and give it all up.”
So my initial response was directed at Horse and Kalki:
Muslims believe that Jesus is the Jewish Messiah…
Well then they’re wrong. Jesus is the Messiah but He is not ‘Jewish’.
Abrahamic/Judaic religions(Islam, Christianity and Judaism) are a curse on humanity.
Abrahamic and Judaic are not the same thing.
Abraham was not a ‘Jew’. Neither were Isaac or Jacob.
Moses, Aaron, Joshua… none of these were ‘Jews’.
Jesus Christ is ‘Abraham’s Seed’. Moses wrote of and looked to Jesus.
‘Judaics’ reject Jesus, therefore they reject Moses, they reject Abraham; they reject the God who sent Him.
This comment (last I looked) has been allowed to stand. Not sure why this one could stay while the next couple had to go… Maybe too many others responded to me and ‘Horsie’ was jealous? Who knows… No matter now. Here are the deleted ones:
(This was in response to a reply to me made by ‘Kalki’. Kalki’s words indented in italics)
Abraham is not a Jew? Moses is not a Jew?
That’s what I said.
Jesus is not a Jew?
Well… Let’s take baby steps. First I’d like you to define ‘Jew’ for me.
Jews are not Jews…. Ummm… So who is?
Jews are Jews. I’ll concede to that. They call themselves ‘Jews’ and identify as ‘Jews’ – so in our world today that’s what they are.
It just sounds like you are trying to distance Christ from a Jewish origin…
At the time of Christ’s Incarnation as the Person of Jesus of Nazareth, the Christ – there was no such term as ‘Jewish’. Jewish is a relatively new English word with with a modern context and modern connotations not applicable to the Bible.
That is a losing battle.
We’ll see about that.
Christ did reject Judaism but he came from the same tribe.
I think you’re a little mixed up. ‘Judaism’ as we now know it is clearly not a ‘tribe’ but an anti-Christ ‘religious’ cult based on post-New Testament/post-Temple Pharisaism.
So that one went down the memory hole… along with this reply to ‘Drew’ (whose words are italicized) :
While I admire the teachings of Jesus Christ and the love He represents, for the longest time I saw Him as aligned with the fiery, angry god of the Old Testament who only seemed to care about “his people.” This was a source of irreconcilable discomfort to me.
Your feelings of discomfort are nothing new. Others have been here before you.
Does not a loving father sometimes get angry at his children? Is not that father’s anger a consequence of the love and care he has for his children? Is not the Loving Father’s anger sometimes justified?
God in the Old Covenant Scriptures cared for His people specifically because it was through them that He would bring the Messiah; when God would enter this world, and die on the tree of the Cross that He might defeat death by entering into death, which could not hold Him.
Through love for His people, He brought love and salvation for all the of peoples of the world who would accept Him, those who came before and those who came after.
The God of the New Testament is the God of the Old Testament, as Christ Himself attests to:
“You search the (Old Testament) Scriptures, for in them you think you have eternal life; and these are they which testify of Me.”
– Gospel of John, 5:39
I saw Jesus as someone who broke tradition in order to teach us that His Father belonged to everyone. In other words, I see Him as completely divorced from the Old Testament.
Well, I’m sorry but you’re wrong. Again, this notion is nothing new… There is nothing new under the sun. It’s an old heresy called ‘Marcionism’ after the name of its first major proponent – Marcion of Sinope, ca 144 AD.
The Old Covenant has been perfected and fulfilled in Him. Jesus the Christ cannot be ‘divorced’ from the Old Testament Scriptures which taught of Him, and spoke of Him. The Old Covenant Scriptures are part of the Bible because they, through the prophets predicted His very coming as the Messiah of Israel; the Savior of the world.
In addition, many “historians” in the employ of the Zionist Bankmasters are trying to portray Jesus as a fictional character who may never have existed. I understand that this is part of their plan to disillusion humanity. They have, at every turn, tried to confuse the innocent by providing a cacophony of ideas.
This is very true. Old school Communist, atheist brainwashing….
This said, do we have any real historical evidence proving Jesus’ existence? I do not believe that a Loving God would want us to abandon our quest for the Truth as I believe that the Truth could only lead those seeking it further to Him.
You’re absolutely correct. A genuine and honest search for the truth will lead one to Jesus because Jesus is Truth Incarnate.
I literally have no clue why the ‘Video Rebel’ would delete that. But that’s what he did.
There. Now I feel better. Weird? Maybe… But true nonetheless.